Cretan Hieroglyphics
The Ornamental and Ritual Version
of the Cretan Protolinear Script Evangelos C. Papakitsos, Ioannis K. Kenanidis, https://www.researchgate.net/publication/312039048_Cretan_Hieroglyphics_The_Ornamental_and_Ritual_Version_of_the_Cretan_Protolinear_ScriptTable 1
- AB37; Did not show the shape of equivalent proto-cuneiform sign Ti(l)/gis Ti (could be https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/DIN.jpg ?)
-AB08 a symbol of supreme deity, but sumerian sign for supreme deity An, is much different. https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/AN.jpg .The proto-cuneiform signs wich are close to the minoan symbol of supreme deity are :
similar to "A" sign:
https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/GAL~b.jpg
similar to labrys sign:
https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/GA'AR~b1.jpg
https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/ZAG~c.jpg
-AB26 did not show sumerian equivalent; proto-sumerian sign RU has different shape and meaning (me : could be close to sumerian Ru:
The Proto-Sumerian Language Invention Process
Nov 2, 2014 - Paper analyzing the Sumerian proto-language. ... by John A. Halloran ..... ru5: to send forth shoots, buds, or blossoms; to butt; to gore. sa: n.https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/RU.jpg ).Not shown nor “ur2 / uru8” in cuneiform
-AB29.Did not show sumerian Pu2 sign,
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-AB38 did not show the equivalent sumerian sign (me; yes, linguistics sumerian E is building, but you not show the sign shape , see https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/E~b.jpg ; sumerian has an specific sign Ab for "house,temple") https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/AB~a.jpg
Fig.1,2
On the ladder-shape signs: Linear A has the signs "Nu" "Ya" and Pa3, https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgLyglaWKvhDTTvHfKWW3xwFyWd7216cc-X465XWioZOkDXJzKlKv0PLxQeFusJWOOm0DhLUw9SsXK4i7gn7ZVW0DLZhAFJepzJ9NlJjTZg5Fld6lEx9qchUdwlKmu-KUJqshoBZERgxGnb/s1600/Linear-A-base.jpg
Proto-cuneiform ladder-signs are : https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/NAM2.jpg
https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/GA2~a3.jpg
and KU https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/KU~a.jpg
A Halloran ku: to base, found, build; to lie down
and K?A/Ga2
https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/GA2~a1.jpg https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/NIGIN.jpg ; ( last twoo are is in horizontal position!)
http://www.oocities.org/proto-language/SumerianArchaicSignTable.htm
K?A
The Sumerian sign (Jaritz #458) depicts a 'tubular basket'; a variant, #458a, tapers toward the top; both have top-covers; both presumably and read ga2 (among others). Another recorded reading for it is pisan, which means 'basket' but perhaps also '*shallow tray' https://scontent.ftsr1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/43053145_245861412767736_422670673651957760_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ht=scontent.ftsr1-2.fna&oh=f901efe7f54c1a6b05a59eba137ffd09&oe=5C5134D6
Fig.3
Sign Linear B 45.You did not find a close shape of pre-cuneiform sign. It has the exact shape in proto-cuneiform sign SA https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/SZA.jpg (f Sumerian Logograms by John A. Halloran ...... szá-l thread, string ;Sa"to dry up")
On decipherment exemple am reserved.
Proto-cuneiform signs from https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns.html
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On Additional Palaeographic Evidence for the Relationship of the Aegean Scripts to the Sumerian Pictography Evangelos C. Papakitsos*1 , Ioannis K. Kenanidis2 http://saspjournals.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/SJAHSS-33C734-737.pdf
Fig-1. Sign *8 (“a”)Linear B sign "A"
Of course sign A is related to proto-sumerian signs Ga'ar and Zag, but not direct relation.Direct relation could be with sign https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/GESZTU~a.jpg. It is much direct to labrys than to the sign "A".
Fig-1. Sign *57 (“ja”)
Yes. Probably the sign you are reffering to, is https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/GA2~a3.jpg
Sign *4 Fig-2. The sign forms for syllable te.
Yes, the proto-cuneiform equivalent is sign "Se" /Sze https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/SZE~a@t.jpg
Sign *6 Fig-3. The sign forms for syllable na.
? Much close, https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/NUN~b.jpg ?
Sign *10 Fig-4. The sign forms for syllable u.
Your proposal not satisfactory.
No close match
? https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/BA.jpg
https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/ZATU694~c.jpg ?
Sign *25 Fig-5. The sign forms for syllable ha.
Not convincing.
? https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/GESZTU~a.jpg
https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/ERIM~a.jpg
https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/BIR3~b.jpg ?
Sign *31 Fig-6. The sign forms for syllable sa.
Not convincing.
Better https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/BAD.jpg
Sign *39 Fig-7. The sign forms for syllable pi.
Not convincing
? https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/GESZTIN~c.jpg
https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/IGI.jpg
https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/USZ~b.jpg ?
Sign *59 Fig-8. The sign forms for syllable ta.
What proto-cuneiform sign is?
? https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/MA2.jpg ?
This is the sign : https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/ZATU625.jpg
Sign *66 Fig-9. The sign forms for syllable tə (“ta2”).
Think no, better:
https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/BIR~b.jpg
https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/KAR2~b.jpg
Sign *73 Fig-10. The sign forms for syllable mi.
Did not show sumerian sign.
It is: https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/SZU.jpg
Maybe better https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/TAK4~a@n.jpg
Sign *74 Fig-11. The sign forms for syllable ze
? https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/DA~c.jpg
https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/TAG~a1@t.jpg ?
Sign *77 Fig-12. The sign forms for syllable ca/ka.
Sumerian sign for sheep.yes, http://www.newsnfo.co.uk/images%202/sumerian%20and%20cuneiform%20writing%20sheep%20referance.jpg , but the name of the sign is UDU: https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/UDU~b.jpg
https://static.cambridge.org/resource/id/urn:cambridge.org:id:binary:17706:20160804090558862-0668:03648fig5_9.png?pub-status=live
Sign *80 Fig-13. The sign forms for syllable ma
No coments. Note that there was another proto-cuneiform sign close to the AMAR/calf shape, for "...goat"
MAH 15887: Animal Husbandry and Animal Paleography
/ Emmert Clevenstine https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTUBh5MTthTsPc13bYgyFRpHt6i5T_47HFjBJFzbRjcyEQ3RkiJ
whose sound was /ħ/ (voiceless pharyngeal fricative). Speakers of western Greek and other dialects, which retained the ancient Greek /h/, used this letter for their /h/, calling it "hēta". But those dialects, such as most of the Ionian dialects and Cretan Doric, that "dropped their aitches" simply called it "ēta"and used it from the start to denote the long low-mid vowel /ɛː/. This was always the usage in the archaic Cretan alphabets.
whose sound was /s/. It is found in some of the archaic alphabets as an alternative way of writing
. It was later used in eastern Ionian alphabets to denote /ks/, but this usage is not attested in any of the archaic alphabets nor known in the alphabets of the western Greeks. The letter occurs in the Praisos #1 inscription and is discussed in the next two sections below.