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Socoteala “sumeriana”, fazele Lunii in jumatatea superioara a tablitei rotunde ?


 Socoteala “sumeriana”, fazele Lunii in jumatatea superioara a tablitei rotunde ?


SOCOTEALA SUMERIANA, FAZELE LUNII, IN JUMATATEA SUPERIOARA A TABLITEI ROTUNDE ?

Foarte multi cercetatori au avansat ipoteza ca scrisul tablitelor nu este sumerian autentic ci doar “de factura sumeriana”Di



Din Written Records.
1. Daca tablitele sant de inspiratie sumeriana, nu prea cred ca ar fi vorba de fazele lunii.

Nu stiu din ce motiv, sumerienii nu au prea folosit in scris Luna ca si corp ceresc. Foloseau pentru Luna calendaristica/month si pentru Luna corp ceresc/Moon (Id,Idi,ITI/SuEN,Sin), semnul pentru soare, pe care aplicau numarul de 30 de zile.
 Sau in scris ma simplu, (banuiesc ca pentru luna calendaristica/month) doar semnul “30”: https://www.bulgari-istoria-2010.com/Rechnici/Sumerian_Cuneiform_English_Dictionary_12.pdf
1230D <<< U+U+U | ESH / EŠ = 30 (numeric) | UŠU3 | SIN = moon

See “30”https://render.fineartamerica.com/images/rendered/default/metal-print/7.125/10.000/break/images-medium-5/sumerian-number-system-science-source.jpg


Nu au folosit deloc forma de literei D.Cand apare Luna (corp ceresc)apare doar in forma de semiluna,corn,secera in pozitie orizontala !           

Mai multi cercetatori avanseaza ipoteza ca semnele DDoo reprezinta fazele lunii (K.Massey,R.Kolev,M.Merlini.Altfel, eu nu subscriu la aceasta ipoteza, si sustin ca este o forma de scris. Altfel singura inscriptie de care stiu in care se figureaza fazele lunii a fost gasita in Europa si are o vechime de 18,000 de ani.Asa ca strict d.p.d.v. al fazelor lunii vechimea prezumata s-ar putea intinde pe mii si mii de ani....Dar inafara faptului ca oamenii au facut legatura intre durata egala a ciclurilor Lunii cu cel menstrual, cunostinte legate de ovulatie in cadrul ciclului apar numai cu putin timp inaintea erei noastre.

2. Daca tablitele sant de influenta sumeriana, se pare ca nu ar prezenta nici numere

Ex.1 (socoteala proto-elamita):



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https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ANkeYHQv-0thxv7PC0H1EfLTo0UuiEfWPhJIucNGeLmkPSPN9Rrt1yej4uACO92Joa8H=s120





GRAIN-RATION RECORD FROM PROTO-ELAMITE SUSA is read from right to left. The text begins with a «hairy triangle», thought to be the issuing authority. Next is a «plow» sign that is probably a field worker. The number signs that follow continue at the right of the bottom line: 1 X 60 + 3 X 10 + 3. Next is a sign like a sheaf of grain; it means barley. Last is a capacity number: 6 X 6 C + 1 C + m. The sense is that 93 workers receive two minor units each (Source: Alan D. Iselin).
Noi avem la Tartaria semnul SUR (primul D) si numere:(citire de la dreapta la stanga):00 (2x6=12C)unitati de capacitate
+ D(1 masura m)
“12c+1m (12 unitati capacitate+1 masura ?”)

Ex.2 Sumerian:

 Retineti ca sumerienii puneau unitatile mari in stanga apoi descrescator spre dreapta; citirea o faceau de la stg. La dreapta
Asa avem si noi pe tablita :
Semnul SUR si un numar
 (D-urile sant mai mari ca 0-urile! Deci D-ul este 60 si nu 1 iar o-urile nu sant mari,O=3600 ci mici o=”10”:

Din A New Edition of the Proto-Elamite 
Text MDP 17, 112 Laura F. Hawkins    https://cdli.ucla.edu/pubs/cdlj/2015/cdlj2015_001.html https://cdli.ucla.edu/pubs/cdlj/2015/cdlj2015_001_fig/figure2.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?


 Figure 3.3: Relations between length measures on proto-cuneiform tablets

(1 nindan = 6 meters The basis of the system was the nindan, with a size of approximately six meters,)
https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/SUR.jpg

SUR D(60) si oo (10 10)
? Sur 60 + 20 = sur 80 ?

Daca am fi avut numai numere, am vi avut:
D D o o = 1,1  10,10= 2 2o. dublul lui 20=40

Automated joining of cuneiform tablet fragments - PURE - University of ...

pure-oai.bham.ac.uk/ws/files/18271046/NABU_2014_4_DEF.pdf
.....  und nimin „40“, was offensichtlich aus *niš-min „2 mal die 20

Daca am scrie denumirea cifrelor http://it.stlawu.edu/~dmelvill/mesomath/Numerals.html:

MIN(2) Nis/ni(20) =NIMIN(40)…….iar ne lovim de sorok =40……..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirara SIRARA6) was a temple complex in Lagash - it may also (or instead) have been a city as mentioned in The Royal Chronicle of Lagaš.[1] It has been suggested that the city-state known as Sirara was also called Nina or Nimin which was probably a seaport.[2]
Daca tablitele sant de inspiratie sumeriana, nu prea cred ca ar fi vorba nici de fazele lunii.

https://www.bulgari-istoria-2010.com/Rechnici/Sumerian_Cuneiform_English_Dictionary_12.pdf
1230D <<< U+U+U | ESH / EŠ = 30 (numeric) | UŠU3 | SIN = moon

See “30”https://render.fineartamerica.com/images/rendered/default/metal-print/7.125/10.000/break/images-medium-5/sumerian-number-system-science-source.jpg

Daca nu avem numai cifre, am inlocui cifrele cu denumirea lor. Am avea
Sur giš/geš niš  ??

3. Atunci sa analizam semnele

 +++++
Dv D o o

Semnele sumeriene sant:

      AS
SUR  Dis/GAR?  2x LAGAB
 As:”unu , unul”

Appendix:Sumerian Swadesh list - Wiktionary

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Sumerian_Swadesh_list
22, one, aš. 23, two, mina.

introduction to sumerian grammar - ANE Languages.COM

www.anelanguages.com/SumerianGrammarFoxvog.pdf
by DA FOXVOG -
subject among other scholars specializing in Sumerian grammar. ...... values such as sumun/sun "old," súmun/ sún "wild cow," sumur/súr "angry,

Preferred Reading
Sign Name
Meaning
sur
SUR
v. to divide, to press, to brew

4 Sumerian Phonology

s155239215.onlinehome.us/.../42TurkicAndSumer/HamoriFSumerianPhonetics&soun...
The basic pronunciation of the sounds of the Sumerian language, that is it's “phonemes” and the key sound changes it ..... *śurwe > sar ~ šur=to stabb, pierce, insert;


V16.COMPARATIVE ENCYCLOPEDIC DICTIONARY OF MESOPOTAMIAN VOCABULARY ...
https://books.google.ro › books Maximillien De Lafayette ·
Šúr: Sumerian. Adjective. a-Aggressive. b- Violent. c-Enraged. Súr: Sumerian. Adjective. a-Determined. b-Self-assured. Šur: Sumerian.…

the unity of hamito-semitic and sumerian language families 1 - Academia.edu
www.academia.edu › THE_UNITY_OF_...
 204 3.5.1.15 Sumerian šur, sur “ to rain, to flow” 204 3.5.1.16 Sumerian
As-Sur:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assur#Name Aššur is the name of the city, of the land ruled by the city, and of its tutelary deity from which the natives take their name, as did the entire nation of Assyria 

Nu este Dis:”unu” pentru ca cifrele in general erau facute prin imprimare. Urma lasata pe lut pentru numarul 1/(“dis”) cam asa arata la sumerieni:


Robert K. Englund Texts from the Late Uruk Period I. Preface Whoever ...

is.muni.cz/el/1421/jaro2013/PAPVA_43/um/Englund_1998.txt
The first general introduction to the proto-cuneiform writing system and an overview of the text genres ...... I g AN "An?" 4b5 GAR 'grain ration

Interpreting John.A. Halloran's Sumerian Lexicon. | Annadurai ...

www.academia.edu/7004569/Interpreting_John.A._Hallorans_Sumerian_Lexicon
While interpreting John – A. Halloran's Sumerian Lexicon - I have used the following ..... *gá: basket; house; stable (cf., gar) [GA2 archaic frequency: 125; ...

Ramane doar sa presupunem ca este o imitatie a semnelor Dis sau GAR….Macar semnul GAR nu il faceau in faza pre-cuneiforma prin imprimare ca si numerele ci prin zgariere:.https://scontent.ftsr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/46493062_2205974336390466_3314040140468322304_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_ht=scontent.ftsr1-1.fna&oh=3149438fc5220dcb722d3f2fa7244046&oe=5C7132D8

La inceputul scrisului in lume, nu exista un semn mai apropiat de forma literei D !

Doua semne Lagab=Nigin “intreg” engl.whole

reading sumerian names, ii: gilgameš - ...
https://www.jstor.org › jcunestud.64.0003
by G Rubio · 2012 · Cited by 11 · Related articles
in Sumerian and Gilgameš in Akkadian. ..... LAGAB.LAGAB = nigin (niŋin) = nin3 in Ea 1: 46–47a (MSL 14, 178) and

Unicode Cuneiform Fonts - HPM Hethitologie-Portal Mainz
https://www.hethport.uni-wuerzburg.de › ...
For Old Babylonian and Neo-Assyrian sign NIGIN (MeZL, n° 804) = LAGAB-LAGAB ( U121B8+ U121B8), we get

 

 

Chapter II - Springer Link
https://link.springer.com › content › pdf
interpreted as a contracted LAGAB.LAGAB. In all four ... LAGAB.LAGAB - as nigin, "to make surround", which gives some sense. In the

 

Nigin tellsurghul.org/Nigin.html

The ancient settlement of Nigin was part, with the cities of Girsu and Lagash, 

The Vocabulary of Sumerian - jstor https://www.jstor.org/stable/592549

by JD Prince 
etymological study of the Sumerian word-list is attended by. ' Die Entstehung des ...... 'canal,' lit. 'collection (nigin) of waters' (Br. 11676). I The Babylonian .

V12.COMPARATIVE ENCYCLOPEDIC DICTIONARY OF MESOPOTAMIAN VOCABULARY ...

https://books.google.ro/books?isbn=1312229934
Maximillien De Lafayette NiginSumerian. Noun. The whole amount. NiginSumerian. 61.

Encyclopedia of Cosmology (Routledge Revivals): Historical, ...

https://books.google.ro/books?isbn=131767765X
Norriss S. Hetherington
In this compound term, the Sumerian element “NIGIN” corresponds to the meaning”to move in circle” or “to encircle,” hence the semantic force of the whole encompassed by heaven and …

Nigin ;”intreg,tot”

          +++++                  AS
           =
Dv D o o            SUR  Dis?/GAR?  Nigin 

Unul
Curge un intreg / ?  o colectare/intreaga  ploaie/rau .....nu cred....

  !                 Unul(zeitatea!)                                                                                                 


                      Ploaie       paiine      tot                 !


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In sfertul din stanga al tabletei:
H D = Ku/Gu   Gar?/Dis?

1.Ku Gar= ku ninda

Ninda-ku:”mananca paine

2.Gad (deity) | Revolvy https://www.revolvy.com/page/Gad-%28deity%29

The English word god continues the Old English god (guþ, gudis in Gothic, guð in Old ..

2.Ku:”pur, sacru” ; dis;”unu”

Unu,Cel Sacru
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 Socoteala sumeriana, fazele Lunii in jumatatea superioara a tablitei rotunde ?

Foarte multi cercetatori au avansat ipoteza ca scrisul tablitelor nu este sumerian autentic ci doar “de factura sumeriana”



DWritten Records.
1. Daca tablitele sant de inspiratie sumeriana, nu prea cred ca ar fi vorba de fazele lunii.

Nu stiu din ce motiv, sumerienii nu au prea folosit in scris Luna ca si corp ceresc. Foloseau pentru Luna calendaristica/month si pentru Luna corp ceresc/Moon (Id,Idi,ITI/SuEN,Sin), semnul pentru soare, pe care aplicau numarul de 30 de zile.

Sau in scris ma simplu, (banuiesc ca pentru luna calendaristica/month) doar semnul “30”: https://www.bulgari-istoria-2010.com/Rechnici/Sumerian_Cuneiform_English_Dictionary_12.pdf
1230D <<< U+U+U | ESH / EŠ = 30 (numeric) | UŠU3 | SIN = moon

See “30”https://render.fineartamerica.com/images/rendered/default/metal-print/7.125/10.000/break/images-medium-5/sumerian-number-system-science-source.jpg

                                                     Nu au folosit deloc forma de literei D.Cand apare Luna apare doar in forma de semiluna,corn,secera in pozitie orizontala !

2. Daca tablitele sant de influenta sumeriana, se pare ca nu ar prezenta numere

Ex.1 (socoteala proto-elamita):

 
 

GRAIN-RATION RECORD FROM PROTO-ELAMITE SUSA is read from right to left. The text begins with a «hairy triangle», thought to be the issuing authority. Next is a «plow» sign that is probably a field worker. The number signs that follow continue at the right of the bottom line: 1 X 60 + 3 X 10 + 3. Next is a sign like a sheaf of grain; it means barley. Last is a capacity number: 6 X 6 C + 1 C + m. The sense is that 93 workers receive two minor units each (Source: Alan D. Iselin).
Noi avem la Tartaria semnul SUR (primul D) si numere:(citire de la dreapta la stanga):00 (2x6=12C)unitati de capacitate
+ D(1 masura m)
“12c+1m (12 unitati capacitate+1 masura ?”)

Ex.2 Sumerian:

Retineti ca sumerienii puneau unitatile mari in stanga apoi descrescator spre dreapta; citirea o faceau de la stg. La dreapta
Asa avem si noi pe tablita :
Semnul SUR si un numar
 
 (D-urile sant mai mari ca 0-urile! Deci D-ul este 60 si nu 1 iar o-urile nu sant mari,O=3600 ci mici o=”10”:

Din A New Edition of the Proto-Elamite 
Text MDP 17, 112 Laura F. Hawkins    https://cdli.ucla.edu/pubs/cdlj/2015/cdlj2015_001.html https://cdli.ucla.edu/pubs/cdlj/2015/cdlj2015_001_fig/figure2.jpg



Figure 3.3: Relations between length measures on proto-cuneiform tablets

(1 nindan = 6 meters The basis of the system was the nindan, with a size of approximately six meters,)
SUR D(60) si oo (10 10)

? Sur 60 + 20 = sur 80 ?

Daca am fi avut numai numere, am fi avut:
D D o o = 1,1  10,10= 2 2o. dublul lui 20=40

pure-oai.bham.ac.uk/ws/files/18271046/NABU_2014_4_DEF.pdf
.....  und nimin „40“, was offensichtlich aus *niš-min „2 mal die 20

Daca am scrie denumirea cifrelor http://it.stlawu.edu/~dmelvill/mesomath/Numerals.html:

MIN(2) Nis/ni(20) =NI-MIN. Nimin (40)…….iar ne lovim de sorok =40……..

Hungarian-Mesopotamian Dictionary (HMD) - MEK PDFwww.mek.oszk.hu › ... Aug 2, 2007 · HDM is based of the Sumerian dictionary of the University of Pennsylvania ...... nimin, nīn “forty”, or niš, neš “twenty”?
40 este numarul sacru al zeului Ea/Enki:

Enki - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enki

Enki is the Sumerian god of water, knowledge (gestú), mischief, crafts (gašam), and creation (nudimmud). He was later known as Ea in Akkadian and Babylonian mythology. ... millennium BCE, he was sometimes referred to in writing by the numeric ideogram for "40", occasionally referred to as his "sacred number".

Full text of "Materials for a Sumerian Lexicon" - Internet Archive
https://archive.org › stream
I. — The stud}- of the Sumerian vocabulary falls logically into three divisions. 1 These are (i) the ...... Nimin, nin 'fort) four corner-wedges.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirara SIRARA6) was a temple complex in Lagash - it may also (or instead) have been a city as mentioned in The Royal Chronicle of Lagaš.[1] It has been suggested that the city-state known as Sirara was also called Nina or Nimin which was probably a seaport.[2]

2.Daca tablitele sant de inspiratie sumeriana, nu prea cred ca ar fi vorba nici de Luna sau fazele lunii.

https://www.bulgari-istoria-2010.com/Rechnici/Sumerian_Cuneiform_English_Dictionary_12.pdf
1230D <<< U+U+U | ESH / EŠ = 30 (numeric) | UŠU3 | SIN = moon

See “30”https://render.fineartamerica.com/images/rendered/default/metal-print/7.125/10.000/break/images-medium-5/sumerian-number-system-science-source.jpg


Daca nu avem numai cifre, am inlocui cifrele cu denumirea lor. Am avea
Sur giš/geš niš  ??

3. Atunci sa analizam semnele

 +++++
Dv D o o

Semnele sumeriene sant:

      AS
SUR  Gar/Dis  2x LAGAB
 
As:”unu , unul”

Appendix:Sumerian Swadesh list - Wiktionary

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Sumerian_Swadesh_list
22, one, aš. 23, two, mina.

?  Sumerian / English doormann.tripod.com › engsum 01/Dil 0002/Man/Min 0003/Pis/Es 0004/ Limmu 0005/Ia 0006/As 0007/Immina 0008/ Us 0009/Ilim 0010/U 0020/Nis 0030/Usu/Es/Is  ?

introduction to sumerian grammar - ANE Languages.COM

www.anelanguages.com/SumerianGrammarFoxvog.pdf
by DA FOXVOG -
subject among other scholars specializing in Sumerian grammar. ...... values such as sumun/sun "old," súmun/ sún "wild cow," sumur/súr "angry,

Preferred Reading
Sign Name
Meaning
sur
SUR
v. to divide, to press, to brew

4 Sumerian Phonology

s155239215.onlinehome.us/.../42TurkicAndSumer/HamoriFSumerianPhonetics&soun...
The basic pronunciation of the sounds of the Sumerian language, that is it's “phonemes” and the key sound changes it ..... *śurwe > sar ~ šur=to stabb, pierce, insert;


V16.COMPARATIVE ENCYCLOPEDIC DICTIONARY OF MESOPOTAMIAN VOCABULARY ...
https://books.google.ro › books Maximillien De Lafayette ·
Šúr: Sumerian. Adjective. a-Aggressive. b- Violent. c-Enraged. Súr: Sumerian. Adjective. a-Determined. b-Self-assured. Šur: Sumerian.…

the unity of hamito-semitic and sumerian language families 1 - Academia.edu
www.academia.edu › THE_UNITY_OF_...
 204 3.5.1.15 Sumerian šur, sur “ to rain, to flow” 204 3.5.1.16 Sumerian
As-Sur:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assur#Name Aššur is the name of the city, of the land ruled by the city, and of its tutelary deity from which the natives take their name, as did the entire nation of Assyria 
Nu este Dis:”unu” pentru ca cifrele in general erau facute prin imprimare. Urma lasata pe lut pentru numarul 1/(“dis”) cam asa arata la sumerieni:

 


 

Robert K. Englund Texts from the Late Uruk Period I. Preface Whoever ...

is.muni.cz/el/1421/jaro2013/PAPVA_43/um/Englund_1998.txt
The first general introduction to the proto-cuneiform writing system and an overview of the text genres ...... I g AN "An?" 4b5 GAR 'grain ration”

Interpreting John.A. Halloran's Sumerian Lexicon. | Annadurai ...

www.academia.edu/7004569/Interpreting_John.A._Hallorans_Sumerian_Lexicon
While interpreting John – A. Halloran's Sumerian Lexicon - I have used the following ..... *gá: basket; house; stable (cf., gar) [GA2 archaic frequency: 125; ...

Ramane doar sa presupunem ca este o imitatie a semnelor Dis sau GAR…..
La inceputul scrisului in lume, nu exista un semn mai apropiat de forma literei D !

Doua semne Lagab=Nigin “intreg” engl.whole

reading sumerian names, ii: gilgameš - ...
https://www.jstor.org › jcunestud.64.0003
by G Rubio · 2012 · Cited by 11 · Related articles
in Sumerian and Gilgameš in Akkadian. ..... LAGAB.LAGAB = nigin (niŋin) = nin3 in Ea 1: 46–47a (MSL 14, 178) and

Unicode Cuneiform Fonts - HPM Hethitologie-Portal Mainz
https://www.hethport.uni-wuerzburg.de › ...
For Old Babylonian and Neo-Assyrian sign NIGIN (MeZL, n° 804) = LAGAB-LAGAB ( U121B8+ U121B8), we get

 

 

Chapter II - Springer Link
https://link.springer.com › content › pdf
interpreted as a contracted LAGAB.LAGAB. In all four ... LAGAB.LAGAB - as nigin, "to make surround", which gives some sense. In the

 

Nigin tellsurghul.org/Nigin.html

The ancient settlement of Nigin was part, with the cities of Girsu and Lagash, 

The Vocabulary of Sumerian - jstor https://www.jstor.org/stable/592549

by JD Prince 
etymological study of the Sumerian word-list is attended by. ' Die Entstehung des ...... 'canal,' lit. 'collection (nigin) of waters' (Br. 11676). I The Babylonian .

V12.COMPARATIVE ENCYCLOPEDIC DICTIONARY OF MESOPOTAMIAN VOCABULARY ...

https://books.google.ro/books?isbn=1312229934
Maximillien De Lafayette NiginSumerian. Noun. The whole amount. NiginSumerian. 61.

Encyclopedia of Cosmology (Routledge Revivals): Historical, ...

https://books.google.ro/books?isbn=131767765X
Norriss S. Hetherington
In this compound term, the Sumerian element “NIGIN” corresponds to the meaning”to move in circle” or “to encircle,” hence the semantic force of the whole encompassed by heaven and …

Nigin ;”intreg,tot”

          +++++                  AS
           =
Dv D o o            SUR  Dis?/Gar?  Nigin 

Unul
Curge un intreg / ?  o colectare/intreaga  ploaie/rau …nu cred,,

        Unul(zeitatea!)
!                        !
Ploaie  paiine   tot

============================================================================
In sfertul din stanga al tabletei:

 

H D = Ku/Gu   Gar?/Dis?

1. Ku Gar= ku ninda
2. 

Sumerian / English doormann.tripod.com/engsum.htm

Ku/Consume Ku/Determiner Ku/Eat(to) Ku/Eat/(to/give) Ku/Feed Ku/Food Ku/Judge Ku/Leader Ku/Livelihood

Ninda-ku:”mananca paine

PDF]

old akkadian writing and grammar - Oriental Institute - University of ...

https://oi.uchicago.edu/pdf/mad2.pdf

Aug 6, 2010 ... NINDA KU "they eat bread" (= Sumerian ninda {-ku -e; cf. also the .
..

2.Gad (deity) | Revolvy https://www.revolvy.com/page/Gad-%28deity%29

The English word god continues the Old English god (guþ, gudis in Gothic, guð in Old ..

2.Ku:”pur, sacru” ; dis;”unu”

Unu,Cel Sacru

19. xi.2018


Doua sau trei sisteme de scriere permit citirea celor 3 tablite pentru ca cuprind aproape toate semnele prezente pe tablite. Este vorba despre scrierile sumeriana,cea cretana si cariana. Singura scriere care cuprinde cele mai multe semne este cea sumeriana. In incercarile de citire am abordat cu egala deschidere fiecare scriere.Pacatul este ca daca prima nu mai prezinta multe necunoscute, in a doua se fac progrese in schimb nu prea exista specialisti pentru scrierea si limba cariana. Eu stiu ca exista doar unul in lume in varf, ADIEGO.
Cu toate ca am incercat sa fac citiri folosind sxrierea proto-cuneiforma sumeriana, inca am unele intrebari si nemultumiri.
- Daca cateva semne nu sant identice cu proto-cuneiformele (ex “D”), au fost imitate? Cine si cum le-a imitat ?.
- Daca au fost niste migranti din Orient, se pare ca au fost familii care nu s-au integrat complet in populatia locala.Banuiesc ca este vorba de meseriasi in prelucrarea metalelor proveniti di aria Gutium-Siria.
-Daca ar fi reale citirile acestea ultime, cum puteau sa faca referire la ei ca fiind peregrini? Singura explicatie ar fi ca gutii, mai putin avansati cultural au folosit termenii existenti in acel timp pentru ei !?                                      

Motto:
During my years of research, I observed that most scientists tend to "fall in love" with their own theories: and that is where trouble starts. After all, you should be critical with your own results, even more so than with the results of others. Only so can you ensure the quality of research you provide.(ANDRAS ZEKE/Hu http://minoablog.blogspot.com/2012/


…...asta inseamna ca revin.Inafara de o posibila citire cu zeitate ploaie “paiine”,” tot”,
va propun:
A.

Sumerian / English doormann.tripod.com/engsum.htm


As-Hur/All-seeing-one
AS-SUR”all seeing-one:/ONE WARRIOR

             AS
SUR   DIL/DIS   NIGIN

B

                 AS                
SUR      DIL/DIS    NIGIN             

          UN
RAZBOINIC  UN   CALATOR/da roata                 

!vedeti pe tablita cei doi UN sant legati !!

V16.COMPARATIVE ENCYCLOPEDIC DICTIONARY OF MESOPOTAMIAN VOCABULARY ...
https://books.google.ro › books Maximillien De Lafayette ·
Šúr: Sumerian. Adjective. a-Aggressive. b- Violent. c-Enraged. Súr: Sumerian. Adjective. a-Determined. b-Self-assured. Šur: Sumerian.…

Sumerian / English doormann.tripod.com/engsum.htm

Warrior/Sur
niĝin [ENCIRCLE]. niĝin [TOTAL].

The Class Reunion—An Annotated Translation and Commentary on the ...

https://books.google.ro/books?isbn=9004302107
J. Cale Johnson, ‎Markham J. Geller... see tashiru sahharu (see sahhiru) turning (Kou 50) sahhirat āli = Sum. uru nigin roaming around the city' 251 sahhirat duri = Sum. bad nigin roaming around …

https://www.scribd.com/document/119559302/Sumerian-Lexicon

gur 4-gur 4) [NIGINarchaic frequency: 11]. to surround. to halt. concatenation …

Sumerian / English doormann.tripod.com/engsum.htm

... Nigin/Wander/(to) Nig-Inim-Bala/Interpretation

to wander {vb} https://en.bab.la/dictionary/english-romanian/wander
 a cutreiera                                                            a vântura                                                              a umbla                                                               a străbate                                                             a pluti                                                                 a ocoli                                                                 a călători

Nigin a calatori in jurul, a inconjura, a da tarcoale, a se vantura, a cutreiera, a hoinari

C.
2: MAN ; 20:NIS

Some Reflections on Numerals in Sumerian towards a History of ... - jstor https://www.jstor.org/stable/601861 by IM Diakonoff

THE SUMERIAN NUMERALS HAVE MORE THAN ONCE since Samuel .... number of Middle Indian and Middle and Neo-Iranian ... (a) without a suffix, as, e.g., I - /as/, 2 - /man,min/,.
MAN NIS> ?MANIS?
D. M. Murdock, Acharya S · 2014 · Religion Stele from Mesopotamia Ur-Nammu was the builder of the Great Ziggurat at Ur, the best ... Ur-Nammu Menes/Manes, Manis and Mannus

D.
Apoi DD oo MIN NIS > ? MINIS ?

2: MIN”   20:”NIS”

Neo Babylonian Sign Lists [CDLI Wiki] cdli.ox.ac.uk › wiki › doku › id=neo_ba... Mar 16, 2016 · Neo Babylonian Sign Lists. Work in progress. Filter: ..... Labat 471 / Borger 708, man, niš, ešra = 20.
C 2ox2 MAN

2;20 = MIN NIS> MINIS

Mini (popolo) - WikiVividly
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Secondo la mitologia greca, i Mini - agg. minio, minia, minie, minii - (in greco Μινύες, ..... The adjective indigenous is derived from the Latin word indigena, which is based on the

MINIS, Μινύες,. minoans !??

In stanga, semnele Ku GAR= ku ninda= ninda ku Ninda-ku:”mananca paine”

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